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Dr. Joe Tatta | The Healing Pain Podcast

Chronic pain is a debilitating condition that affects one’s ability to live a full and active life and impacts both physical and emotional health. Whether you are living with chronic pain or a physical therapist or other health professional such as an occupational therapist, psychologist, social worker, nurse, or physician seeking information for treating pain, we invite you to join our global community. Welcome to The Healing Pain Podcast with Dr. Joe Tatta, a podcast that promotes the latest evidence and methods for the safe and effective treatment of chronic pain. Featuring top experts, we bring you the latest research from the fields of pain science, physical therapy, physiotherapy, pain psychology, functional nutrition, integrative and functional medicine, as well as discuss innovation and provide expert opinion every week. More and more patients are seeking integrative and comprehensive pain therapies that care for both their body as well as their mind. A biopsychosocial approach to the care of pain has arrived. Many realize that pain medications and surgery alone are not enough to address the root cause of their problems - such as fibromyalgia, chronic low back pain, osteoarthritis, rheumatoid arthritis, autoimmune disease, CRPS, neuropathy, anxiety, depression, and PTSD. Dr. Joe Tatta is a global leader in integrative pain care and an advocate for the safe and effective treatment of chronic pain. He is the Founder of the Integrative Pain Science Institute, a cutting-edge health company reinventing pain care through evidence-based treatment, research, and professional development. For 25 years he has supported people living with pain and helped practitioners deliver more effective pain management. His research and career achievements include scalable practice models centered on lifestyle medicine, health behavior change, and digital therapeutics. He is a Doctor of Physical Therapy, a Board-Certified Nutrition Specialist, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy trainer. Dr. Tatta is the author of two bestselling books Radical Relief and Heal Your Pain Now and host of The Healing Pain Podcast. Learn more by visiting www.integrativepainscienceinstitute.com. The Healing Pain Podcast is a great resource for patients suffering from chronic pain as well as for professionals seeking additional professional CEU credits and free continuing education on the most up-to-date information for treating pain based on a biopsychosocial model of pain care. The show covers a wide range of topics that will help you learn all about chronic pain management such us how clinicians can treat pain more effectively, learn how exercise and physical activity alleviates pain, the role nutrition plays in reversing and treating chronic pain, how to use mindfulness, cognitive behavioral therapy, and acceptance and commitment therapy to treat many chronic conditions, and so much more! Chronic pain doesn’t have to be an obstacle in the highway of your life that makes you step on the brakes. Arm yourself with the knowledge on how you can better manage or even eliminate it so you can start living your best – and pain-free – life! Join The Healing Pain Podcast community today.
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Jul 28, 2021

In this episode, we're discussing how to bridge the gap that exists between a person and pain, their ability to move beyond suffering and back to life through applying both modern pain science principles, and the ancient wisdom of yoga. Yoga is a practice that is more than 5,000 years old, and the field of pain science is probably more than 40 years old. However, when brought together, both of these methods and techniques offer each other enormous resources and wisdom for the treatment of pain and many other chronic health conditions. Joining me to discuss the combination of pain neuroscience with yoga for effective pain care are physical therapists Niamh Moloney and Marnie Hartman. Niamh is a physiotherapist, pain researcher, and yoga teacher. Marnie is a physical therapist, a certified strength and conditioning specialist, and a registered yoga teacher.

Both have a special interest in pain neuroscience and how to use yoga for effective pain care. In this episode, we discuss how to apply modern pain or science to yoga and yoga therapy, the similarities between yoga and a modern pain science approach, how to optimize both the mind and the body for effective pain relief, and whether or not mindful movement is more effective than general physical activity for pain management. Together, Niamh and Marnie wrote a great book called Pain Science-Yoga-Life, you can find that on Handspring Publishing, make sure to check that out. Without further ado, let's begin this episode and learn about pain neuroscience and yoga for effective pain care.

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Jul 14, 2021

On this episode, we're discussing patient adherence to treatment as a foundational aspect of pain management. The evidence-base and research in this era tell us that high levels of adherence to things like physical activity or perhaps an exercise program are highly correlated with positive health outcomes, but what about when a patient does not adhere to the agreed upon treatment plan? Do we know how to increase patient adherence? Do we know how to promote the maintenance of pain self-management behaviors? Joining me to discuss adherence to and the maintenance of self-management behaviors in people with musculoskeletal pain is Dr. Anne Soderlund. Anne is a Professor of Physiotherapy in Sweden with a special interest in behavioral medicine.

 

Her research area is on prevention, treatment and evaluation of health problems from a behavioral medicine perspective embedded within a physiotherapy framework. This includes a strong focus on an individual's behavior, behavior change, and the ability for functioning in everyday life at different ages. On this episode, we discuss the important topic of helping patients adhere to exercise programs and other self-management techniques for the treatment of chronic pain. As a leader in this area, it has some great research with regard to physiotherapy and behavior change. She's definitely someone's work I recommend that you follow. Without further ado, let's begin and let's meet Dr. Anne Soderlund. 

 

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Jun 30, 2021

We're discussing how to use mindfulness and acceptance-based approaches to overcome chronic pain. My guest is Vidyamala Burch. She is a mindfulness and compassion teacher with years of helping people with pain, illness or stress live fuller and more meaningful lives. At the early age of seventeen, she sustained a spinal injury that required multiple surgeries and left her with chronic low back pain and partial paraplegia. After experiencing a period of hopelessness as well as helplessness, she discovered mindfulness as a way to ease the mental torment associated with physical pain.

 

She's the author of two books, teaches and trains on the topics of mindfulness as well as compassion. Vidyamala was also awarded an honorary membership from The British Pain Society for outstanding contributions to the field of pain management. In this episode, we discuss how Vidyamala has used mindfulness to overcome chronic pain and how she teaches people with chronic pain to live fuller lives through mindfulness meditation. Without further ado, let's begin. Let's learn about mindfulness and acceptance-based approaches to chronic pain.

 

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Jun 16, 2021

The words pain science and pain education are used so frequently nowadays in professional circles that we rarely take the time to explain the difference between the two or reflect on what clinical practice was like before these advancements came into our life. What was it like for people living with pain without this knowledge? Pain science is a part of a larger field of neuroscience, which investigates nociception and the lived experience of pain. It is most often taught in University Physical Therapy programs but over the years, it's begun to show up in the training of many licensed healthcare professionals. Pain education is one component of an overall cognitive-behavioral intervention, which teaches people how to effectively self-manage chronic pain. It focuses on the components of each individual's pain experience and how it affects their daily lives. Research shows that when people have a better understanding of how pain works in the body, it can ease fear, anxiety and create hope.

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Jun 9, 2021

Joining me is one of our faculty members, Dr. Carey Rothschild. She’s going to talk to you all about the importance of pain science and pain education in practice, whether you are a physical medicine or mental health professional. Let me first introduce Carey to all of you. Dr. Carey Rothschild is an Assistant Professor in the Doctor of Physical Therapy Program at the University of Central Florida. In addition to earning her DPT, she's Board-Certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy and Sports Physical Therapy. She earned a Certificate of Achievement in Pelvic Physical Therapy. Her research related to running and the female athlete has been published in the Strength & Conditioning Journal, the Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, Sports Health and the Journal of Women’s Health Physical Therapy.

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Jun 2, 2021

It's a pleasure to be spending this time with you. In this episode, we're talking about the latest in pain science and pain education with our expert guest Dr. Carey Rothschild. Carey is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Physical Therapy at the University of Central Florida. In addition to earning her DPT degree, she is also board certified in Orthopedic Physical Therapy and in Sports Physical Therapy and earned a certificate of achievement in Pelvic Physical Therapy. Her research related to running and the female athlete has been published in The Strength & Conditioning Journal, The Journal of Strength and Conditioning Research, Sports Health and the Journal of Women's Health Physical Therapy.

In 2019, Carey received the award for Excellence in Academic Teaching from the Florida Physical Therapy Association. A big part of that was for her innovation in developing and teaching one of the nation's first pain mechanisms and treatment and rehabilitation courses for both physical therapists as well as other healthcare professionals. In this episode, we'll discuss the foundational and important aspects of pain science, pain education and the steps Dr. Rothschild took to create a course on pain science education at the university level. Also, how she has expanded the delivery of pain education not only for physical therapy students but also for other healthcare professionals such as social workers.

Before we begin, I wanted to let you know that Dr. Rothschild has joined the Integrative Pain Science Institute as a faculty and educator. As part of her joining, she has two offerings that I want to share with you. The first one is a free masterclass on pain science education. If you like what you read, stick around or if you're on our mailing list, be on the lookout for an email with regard to a pain science education masterclass. It's a 40-minute masterclass where Dr. Rothschild reviews a case study on a 45-year-old female with chronic pelvic and lower back pain.

This is appropriate for both physical medicine professionals as well as mental health professionals. Keep an eye out for a unique course offering that Carey’s delivering through the Integrated Pain Science Institute. It is called Pain Education for the Health Care Professional. This is a six-week, seven-hour CEU activity where you learn the latest in pain science, as well as pain education and how to effectively assess and treat the multi-dimensional nature of pain.

That's a six-week course. It's worth seven CEs/CEUs. It's called Pain Education for the Healthcare Professional. Make sure you're on the mailing list too. Go over to IntegrativePainScienceInstitute.com and hop on our mailing list. You can opt-in anywhere to receive our emails and you'll receive updates both on the pain science education masterclass, as well as the Pain Education for the Healthcare Professional CEU course and activity. Without further ado, let's begin and let's meet Dr. Carey Rothschild.

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May 26, 2021

We are joined by Dr. Ellen Zambo Anderson, who is an Associate Professor in the Doctor of Physical Therapy Program at Rutgers University. In addition to earning a PhD in Health Sciences, she's an Assistant Director of the Rutgers Community Participatory Physical Therapy Clinic and serves as the Special Olympics Global Advisor for Young Athletes. Dr. Anderson is the co-author of the textbook, Complementary Therapies for Physical Therapy and the Co-owner of YogiAnatomy, a company that provides continuing education on the topics related to complementary approaches for managing well-being, health and function. In this episode, we examine professional burnout in the physical therapy profession and provide suggestions for individuals and institutions to address and decrease burnout. It's an important topic for all of us in the profession of physical therapy and other health professions as well. Make sure to share this episode with your friends and colleagues. Let's get ready and meet Dr. Ellen Zambo Anderson.

 

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May 19, 2021

Thanks for joining me for this special episode of the show masterclass where we're discussing the impact of motivational interviewing on chronic pain. In this episode, I'm joined by Dr. Rose Pignataro, who is a doctor of physical therapy and an expert on how to use motivational interviewing specifically in physical therapy, chronic pain and non-communicable disease. In this masterclass, Rose will discuss what motivational interviewing is, how motivational interviewing can be used alongside other treatments such as exercise, pain neuroscience education, CBT or ACT, and how to bill and code for this intervention in clinical practice.

Finally, she'll go through a case study of a woman with diabetic peripheral neuropathy who is ambivalent to start and exercise or change her nutrition patterns. Make sure you hang on for that case study toward the end of this episode. Dr. Pignataro has joined the Integrative Pain Science Institute as a faculty and educator. You can check out her latest course, which is Motivational Interviewing for Chronic Pain. You can find it on the website at IntegrativePainScienceInstitute.com. Scroll over to courses. Go through our course list and you'll find it there. Without further ado, enjoy this masterclass with Dr. Rose Pignataro.

 

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May 5, 2021

In this episode, you'll get to meet my friend and colleague, David Hanscom, MD. He is an orthopedic surgeon whose practice at one time focused on patients with failed back surgeries. He eventually quit his spine surgery practice to pursue his passion and present his insights into solving chronic pain, which evolved from his own battle and struggles with it. Dr. Hanscom has written two books on the topic of chronic pain and now guides patients more clearly through the complexities of solving chronic pain. In this episode, we explore the connection between anxiety, PTSD and chronic pain. It's a great episode to share with someone who is struggling with chronic pain but healthcare practitioners, specifically orthopedic surgeons and primary care physicians. Let's get ready and let's meet David Hanscom, MD.

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Apr 29, 2021

In this episode, we're going to do something different. Instead of me interviewing someone, I'm going to share a simple yet powerful technique that will help you whether you're someone living with pain or a practitioner who treats people. This exercise is called Dropping an Anchor. It's typically one of the very first techniques that I teach patients who suffer from pain or pain catastrophizing, having problems with difficult emotions, emotion dysregulation, anxiety or any challenge that's coming up in the therapy room. Before we begin, we probably should revisit the term pain catastrophizing and review and identify what that means. Pain catastrophizing is the tendency to magnify the threat value of pain, feel helpless in a context of pain or the inability to inhibit pain-related thoughts in anticipation of a painful encounter. The last part, the inability to inhibit pain-related thoughts in anticipation of a painful encounter, is what I would like you to think about as we go into this episode.

Think about someone who has chronic pain. Each time they come into your clinic, each time they come into the therapy room with you, they are in some way in anticipation that there may be some pain during that session. We're going to talk about pain. I may be moving or moving your arm. You may be experiencing pain. It's a lot of pain-related thoughts that are happening in anticipation of a treatment session. That's why we're going to go through this Dropping an Anchor exercise. If you've taken my ACT for Chronic Pain Course or my Mindfulness-Based Pain Relief Certification, you'll be able to identify that this type of exercise fits squarely in the psychological process of contacting the present moment. You'll also be able to identify some degree of cognitive defusion. Cognitive defusion is the idea of distancing or separating from thoughts. You'll definitely see aspects of both of those during this exercise.

There are lots of different ways you can drop an anchor. You can drop an anchor by focusing on your breath, by stretching, focusing on the rise and fall of the diaphragm, looking around the room and fixating on a point or listening to sounds in the room. You're going to hear all of those flavors now because I'm going to share a session that I had with a client that I worked with virtually. This whole encounter here that I'm going to share with you with my client, Barbara, I have her permission to share this. At the end of that exercise, I gave Barbara a while to debrief so we can talk through what she noticed and experienced during the activity.

Probably the most common mistake I see both therapists, as well as patients, make with this type of exercise is they attempt to use it as a control or a distraction technique. Control and distraction techniques are very opposite of what happens in mindfulness and acceptance-based approaches to pain. Mindfulness and acceptance-based approaches involve helping you turn toward what's in the present moment with an openness and a curiosity and not necessarily to distract, eliminate, control or avoid what's present.

I invite you to participate and play patient. If you're at home, find a comfortable chair to sit in. Any chair will do. You can do this as an eyes-open or eyes-closed exercise. It doesn't matter. I personally enjoy eyes-closed exercises like most people do with regard to cognitive and mindfulness exercises like this. If you're seated, all you have to do is place your palms down on your lap, relax your arms at your sides and gently begin to close your eyes. Let's get ready. I invite you to drop an anchor with us. Let's get started.

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Apr 22, 2021

We're discussing how to train entry-level physical therapists to address the opioid epidemic. My guest is Dr. Anne Swisher. She is a Professor and Director of Scholarship for the West Virginia Division of Physical Therapy. She's been a Board-Certified Cardiopulmonary Clinical Specialist for several years and has taught in the area of cardiopulmonary physical therapy, exercise prescription and pathophysiology. She's also a Catherine Worthingham Fellow of the American Physical Therapy Association and has published over 80 peer reviewed publications. We focus on a paper Anne published called the Physical Therapist Roles During the Opioid Epidemic in Rural Appalachia: Preparing Students to Educate Communities.

Anne is working to address opioid misuse in what some may consider an unconventional way. She's enhanced physical therapy instruction at West Virginia University to emphasize the physical therapist's role in preventing and treating opioid use disorder. The reason why this is such an important topic is because the nexus of America's opioid epidemic isn’t where most people would expect. It's not in the big city such as New York, Chicago or Los Angeles. Instead, the hub of the epidemic is in rural states such as West Virginia. West Virginia has more than double the rate of opioid deaths in the national average and a 20% higher rate of opioid prescriptions written by providers.

On this episode, we discuss how to prepare future physical therapists to embrace advocacy roles related to opioid use disorder, the educational model and develop to guide physical therapy students regarding their roles across the spectrum of opioid use disorder. Also, how this model can serve as a guide for educating a variety of communities negatively impacted by the opioid epidemic, without further ado, let's begin. Let's meet Anne and learn how we can train entry-level physical therapists to address the opioid epidemic.

 

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Apr 14, 2021

We're diving deeper into the utility of Pain Neuroscience Education and investigating if it's enough to help people overcome pain when used as a single treatment modality or should it be folded into a more comprehensive multimodal pain treatment program? My guest is Rilind Shala who is a young scientist and a physical therapist from Kosovo. He conducts research with the prestigious Body and Mind Group and has earned many international accolades for his work in both physical therapy as well as pain management. In this episode, we cover how Pain Neuroscience Education is used in clinical practice, the clinical impact of Pain Neuroscience Education on outcomes such as kinesiophobia and pain catastrophizing, and the essential tools and techniques you can combine with Pain Neuroscience Education to prove its impact on quality of life. Let's get ready, let's begin and let's learn about Pain Neuroscience Education.

 

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Mar 25, 2021

As you know in 2020, many states, countries and in some ways, the entire globe went into lockdown from the Coronavirus pandemic. With that, many professionals, practitioners and people living with pain were introduced for the first time to telemedicine and telerehabilitation. I wanted to explore some of the research and the applications with you and invite a special guest who can help us talk about some of those topics.

Joining us is physiotherapist and researcher, Bruno Saragiotto. He is an Assistant Professor at the City University of São Paulo in Brazil. He's also a Research Affiliate at the University of Sydney and Co-leader of the Centre for Pain, Health and Lifestyle. Bruno has published over 70 research articles that focus on telehealth, healthcare innovation and access to technology. In this episode, we discuss how you can use telerehabilitation to treat those with chronic pain, as well as how you can use it as an effective tool for the promotion of physical activity. Without further ado, let's begin and meet Bruno.

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Mar 17, 2021

We have a very special and distinguished guest joining us to discuss the topic of emotion and how emotion relates to chronic pain. If you follow this show or up-to-date on the latest pain science, you know that the definition of pain is that it's both a physical as well as an emotional experience. Joining us is Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett. Lisa is among the top 1% Most Cited Scientists in the world for her revolutionary research in psychology as well as neuroscience. She is a University Distinguished Professor of Psychology at Northeastern University with appointments at Harvard Medical School and Massachusetts General Hospital.

She is also the Chief Science Officer for the Center of Law, Brain & Behavior at Harvard University. In addition to the books Seven and a Half Lessons About the Brain and How Emotions are Made, Dr. Barrett has published over 240 peer-reviewed scientific papers appearing in Science, Neuroscience, and other top journals in psychology and cognitive neuroscience, as well as six academic volumes published by Guilford Press. She has also given a popular TED Talk, which has over 6 million views on the topic of how emotions are made. Dr. Barrett has also received a National Institutes of Health Director’s Pioneer Award for her revolutionary research on emotions in the brain.

In this episode, you'll learn about some of the essential and new science behind how our brain perceives our experience and how that relates to how emotions are made. We'll also discuss the neuroscience behind interoception and how it relates to the creation and perception of emotions, as well as how we can take these lessons and use them to cultivate pro-social values and improve global health care. I'm excited to share this guest with you. Lisa was extremely generous with her time. This is a little bit longer episode than normal but you'll find lots of important tidbits and enjoy every moment of this interview. Without further ado, let's begin and let's meet Dr. Lisa Feldman Barrett.

 

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Mar 10, 2021

We're joined by physiotherapist Carolyn Vandyken and we're discussing how to implement effective pain education and other psychosocial interventions into the practice of physical therapy and others who are helping people with chronic pain. Carolyn has been a practicing physical therapist specializing in orthopedics and pelvic health for decades. In addition to being a licensed physiotherapist, Carolyn is also certified in the McKenzie method and acupuncture as well as a certificate in cognitive behavioral therapy.

In addition to clinical practice, Carolyn is heavily involved in postgraduate pelvic health education, research in lumbopelvic pain, speaking at numerous international conferences as well as writing books and chapters on pelvic health, orthopedics, and pain science. In this episode, you'll learn why pain education is essential for the treatment of chronic pain as well as how to implement other bio-psychosocial interventions such as Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and mindfulness for the treatment of chronic pain. Without further ado, let's begin, and let's meet Carolyn Vandyken.

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Mar 3, 2021

We're discussing how to bridge the gap between the mind and body in Pain Management and Pain Medicine. My expert guest is Pain Psychologist, Rachel Zoffness. Rachel is a Practicing Clinical Psychologist and an Assistant Clinical Professor at the University of California San Francisco School of Medicine, where she teaches Pain Education for medical residents. She serves on the boards of the American Association of Pain Psychology, the Society of Pediatric Pain Medicine, and as a 2020 Mayday Fellow. In this episode, we'll discuss the essential role of Pain Education, how health providers of different disciplines can use Pain Education in practice, and how to apply the Biopsychosocial Model Framework for the treatment of chronic pain. Let's begin, bridge, or eliminate that gap between the mind and body. Let's meet Dr. Rachel Zoffness.

Feb 24, 2021

This is our last episode in The Radical Relief series. It’s bittersweet for me to end this series because I enjoyed speaking to these great clinicians, researchers and academics that are using Pain Neuroscience Education, mindfulness, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. I want to take a moment to express my deepest gratitude to each speaker who appeared during this series and share their great information starting with Adriaan Louw, Davide Lanfranco, Mary Doyle, Annette M. Willgens, Lilian Dindo, Mary Grant, and our guest, Andrea Moore. If you’ve missed any episode in this series, make sure you go back to December 30th, 2020, with episode 209. You can start there and then work all the way through each episode until you arrive at this episode. 

I’m joined by Andrea Moore, who is a physical therapist and a recovering health perfectionist. Early in her career, she focused on trying to fix everything that seemed to be wrong with her. She’s dealt with chronic pain, post-concussive syndrome, anxiety, depression, and ADD. She now helps other overwhelmed women suffering from chronic pain to achieve a healthy and active lifestyle. In this episode, you’ll learn all about chronic pain and how perfectionism contributes to chronic pain, as well as Andrea’s evolution from becoming a doctor of physical therapy, implementing nutrition, and now informing her practice with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. 

If you’re interested in learning how to combine these multimodal approaches that we discuss on this episode, including Pain Neuroscience Education, mindfulness, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, make sure to check out my latest book, Radical Relief: A Guide to Overcome Chronic Pain, which is available on Amazon. Let’s begin and meet Dr. Andrea Moore, and learn all about the connection between perfectionism and chronic pain. 

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Feb 17, 2021

As always, it's a great pleasure and honor to be spending this time with you. In this episode, we're discussing the role of positive psychological factors and the association of chronic pain with a specific emphasis on pain acceptance, pain self-efficacy and optimism. My expert guest is Dr. Javier Martínez-Calderón. Javier is a Spanish pain researcher and a physical therapist who completed a PhD in which he explored how psychological factors impact people with chronic shoulder pain. He's an assistant professor at the University of Granada in Spain and a pain researcher in the Biomedical Research Institute of Malaga. His postdoctoral research is focused on the role that cognitions and emotions play in people with chronic pain.

In this episode, you'll learn all about the importance of positive psychological factors, and how they impact recovery for people with chronic pain with a specific emphasis on pain acceptance and pain self-efficacy. If you're interested in learning more about pain acceptance, make sure to check out my book called Radical Relief: A Guide to Overcome Chronic Pain, which is based on the principles of acceptance and commitment therapy. You can order it on Amazon. Without further ado, let's begin and let's meet Dr. Javier Martínez-Calderón and learn all about how psychological factors impact chronic pain.

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Feb 10, 2021

We're discussing how to combine two evidence-based and effective methods for the treatment of chronic pain, which are Cognitive Functional Therapy and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy. My expert guest is Mary Grant. Mary is a Senior Physiotherapist at the Rheumatic and Musculoskeletal Disease Unit at Our Lady’s Hospice in Ireland where she's developed extensive skills in musculoskeletal rehabilitation with a particular emphasis on arthritis and persistent pain problems.

She's a guest lecturer at the University of College Dublin in the physiotherapy program where she trains student physiotherapists on the assessment and treatment of arthritis and has been involved in the development of a new program with Arthritis Ireland. In addition to her physiotherapy degree, Mary has also earned a Master's of Manual Therapy and has a keen interest in combining pain neuroscience education, Cognitive Functional Therapy, and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy for the treatment of chronic pain.

In this episode, you'll learn about the similarities, differences, and complementary approaches of Cognitive Functional Therapy and Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, how they help people with persistent pain, and how physiotherapists can go about employing these methods and techniques in clinical practice. If you're interested in learning more about Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and how you can combine it with other pain neuroscience education or Cognitive Functional Therapy, make sure to check out my latest book, Radical Relief: A Guide to Overcome Chronic Pain. It is available on Amazon. Inside, you'll learn all about ACT or Acceptance and Commitment Therapy and how you can combine it with pain neuroscience education. Let's get ready and let's meet Mary Grant and learn about combining Cognitive Functional Therapy with Acceptance and Commitment Therapy.

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